'Andor' Showrunner Tony Gilroy on World-Building, the Ideology of 'Andor,' and Characters He'll Miss Writing For

House of R

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4.8 • 3K Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Mal and Jo are joined by ‘Andor’ showrunner Tony Gilroy! They dive into everything from the world-building and ideology of ‘Andor’ to the fate of the Maya Pei Brigade, what’s in Syril’s box, and much more! (00:00) Intro(05:08) Speeches and Quotes in ‘Andor’(07:16) World-Building in ‘Andor’(10:24) The Sense of Place and Ideology in ‘Andor’(15:30) Balance of Characters(21:15) Power Dynamics and How They Shift(23:32) If You Made ‘Rogue One’ After ‘Andor,’ How Would it Be Different?(25:41) Jyn and Cassian’s Relationship(26:52) Figuring Out Character Retributions(29:42) Luthen and Saw(34:35) Staying in His Five-Year Period(36:40) Taking the Ideas of ‘Andor’ and Moving Beyond It(43:39) Which Characters Will You Miss Writing For?(46:11) Cinta Kaz and Tay Kolma’s Demise(48:00) B2EMO and a Farewell Scene with Cassian(51:57) Budget Restrictions Where They Had to Get Creative(56:56) Lessons to Take from ‘Andor’(01:00:35) Syril’s Private Box and Enza(01:03:04) Did Anyone from the Maya Pei Brigade Survive? Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna RobinsonGuest: Tony GilroyProducers: Carlos Chiriboga and John RichterSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:51.5	I'm Mallory Rubin. She's coming home to herself and tomorrow she's coming home to me
0:57.3	because she's driving down to Los Angeles. It's Joanna Robinson. Malay Rubin, I cannot wait
1:03.7	for our listeners to hear some of the things that are in store for them inside of this episode.
1:10.4	We're talking to Tony Gilroy today.
1:12.2	Tony Gilroy's here.
1:13.8	The whole pod is a Tony Gilroy interview.
1:15.8	What an absolute fucking thrill.
1:18.2	And if you're going to ask, hey, did Mallory get emotional talking about a droid?
1:22.1	She did.
1:22.8	Hey, did Mallory get horny talking about Cyril and Dedra?
1:25.9	She did.
1:26.8	It's all there waiting for you inside of this interview.
1:30.3	And, you know, similarly, if you're like, didn't Joanna ask about the Maya Bay Brigade?
1:36.0	She did.
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