And, This Is Trump's Shutdown With Senator Chris Murphy
This is Gavin Newsom
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🗓️ 13 October 2025
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
Gavin Newsom sits down with Senator Chris Murphy to discuss if Trump cares about the human impact of a government shutdown and whether bipartisanship is still possible in today’s polarized climate. Then they dive into the mounting tensions of putting troops in the streets, and how Democrats can redefine their brand amidst the chaos.
0:00 Intro
1:40 - Oversight Hearing
5:26 -Trump Is Rooting For A Shutdown
11:10 - Dems Need To Unite Right Now
16:04 - Is Bipartisanism Dead?
21:50 - Troops In The Streets
26:17 The Democratic Brand
30:48 Loneliness & Young People
36:00 Totalitarianism & Monopolies
40:29 2026 And Beyond
Mentioned In This Episode: Chris Murphy's Atlantic Article
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| 0:00.0 | Totalitarianism and monopoly go hand in hand. Don't make the healthcare system any worse. |
| 0:04.3 | Don't jack up premiums up people by 75% and don't act lawlessly. |
| 0:08.5 | History tells us that when the people stand up, something magical happens. |
| 0:13.0 | I don't need to remind everybody that the government is shut down, but we are not shut out from getting a deeper understanding of what's going on in Washington, D.C. |
| 0:22.8 | Because we have one of the most prominent Democratic voices, |
| 0:26.4 | someone who has been a fierce defender of democracy and free speech, |
| 0:31.4 | who is one of the leaders in the resistance against Trump in Trumpism that can unpack |
| 0:36.6 | and unveil what's going on with health care in this |
| 0:38.9 | country, what's going on in terms of negotiation with the government shutdown, but also |
| 0:43.0 | broaden the aperture to what's going on in American cities with the increasing militarization, |
| 0:49.2 | with our National Guard, and what's happening to the state of our democracy. |
| 0:58.1 | This is Gavin Newsom. |
| 1:01.1 | This is Senator Chris Murphy. |
| 1:05.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 1:09.9 | Senator Murphy, it's great that you took the time to be with us today. |
| 1:14.0 | I continue to make this point behind your back anytime I'm asked. |
| 1:17.7 | They said, who do you admire out there in the Democratic Party? |
| 1:21.5 | Who, from your perspective, particularly in Washington, T.C. stands out. |
| 1:25.3 | And every single time, first name comes out of my mouth is you, sir. |
| 1:29.9 | And so I'm grateful for this opportunity to check in and check up on what's going on in this country, |
| 1:36.1 | including just what happened as we were taping this just an hour or so ago, Pam Bondi, |
| 1:41.8 | the Attorney General of the United States, at an oversight hearing that |
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