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When it comes to the issue of race and gender, when it comes to the issue of masculinity,

there are few people that hold more credentials on this subject matter than my next guest.

This is Gavin Newsom.

And this is Jackson Cats. You've got a new book coming out, at least overseas,

and we'll see what comes out here. It's called Everyman. But I mean, that's interesting, Obama, Renegades, and Springsteen. So tell me a little bit more about that. Well, yeah, my book was just

published in the UK in February, but it's coming out in September

in the United States, the American version. It's called Everyman, Why Violence Against Women is a

men's issue and how you can make a difference. And Jack, just so for people that don't know you,

you've been at this issue, been talking about the issue of intersection between gender, race,

violence for decades and decades.

I mean, you've been in this space talking about the issues of masculinity, what's happening

in young men, and the relationship between the sexes for 25 plus years, right?

Oh, yeah, since I was a college student, really, which is a long time ago.

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