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This is Gavin Newsom

And, This Is Former MAGA Influencer Ashley St. Clair

This is Gavin Newsom

iHeartPodcasts

News, Society & Culture

3.07.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Ex-MAGA influencer Ashley St. Clair joins the show to share her journey from MAGA mouthpiece to outspoken critic of the movement she helped build. She exposes the online influencer networks that begin in the White House and end in your feeds, before revealing why Elon Musk was so desperate to keep her silenced.

00:00 Intro
00:52 Ashley’s MAGA Origin Story
8:10 From TPUSA Recruit To Monetizing Activism
16:45 MAGA Influencers - Who Calls The Shots? 
21:55 The Real Elon Musk & Big Tech’s Unchecked Power
36:30 The Trump Influencer Group Chats & How The Left Responds 
46:22 Elon's 10,000 Space Lasers & The $40 Million NDA
56:05 St. Clair’s Biggest Regrets 

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0:00.0

I think I'm most disappointed in Elon.

0:02.0

I think divorce is an option when your spouse wants to kill you.

0:05.0

Yeah, I was offered $40 million, which included an NDA and non-disperagement into eternity, which I declined.

0:12.0

So if you've ever wondered about the inner workings of the mega movement, what actually happens on the group chats?

0:19.0

Who's on the group chats? How coordinated is the

0:23.0

mega movement coming out of the White House and the political operation to influencers to right-wing

0:28.7

media? Well, I've got the perfect guest for you, Ashley St. Clair. She spent close to a decade

0:35.6

in this movement, and now she is speaking out against the

0:41.0

thing that she worked so hard to advance. This is Gavin Newsom. And this is Ashley St. Clair.

0:52.6

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:55.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:57.6

Thanks for having me, Governor.

0:59.2

So Ashley, it's so interesting, just a lot of clips out there about you, a lot of energy, a lot of, you know, a lot of conversations.

1:07.2

And, you know, not I think a lot of, you know, feigning praise, not criticism necessarily,

1:14.7

but you're playing to an audience, right?

1:17.4

You're sort of emerging out of this mega, sort of, you know, influence space, this surround sound that a lot of us are on the receiving end of, including myself.

1:30.2

So I have some intimate appreciation for what they produce, but I have little knowledge for how

1:37.5

they produce it. And so I'm fascinated by this opportunity. I'm very grateful for you,

1:42.2

be willing to share just your insights without,

1:44.9

you know, and I'm not looking to tear anybody down, but just to understand the ecosystem

1:49.8

that you came out of and why you're coming out of that ecosystem and what all of this represents

1:57.4

to you. So maybe the best way to start is really for you to introduce yourself

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