And, This Is Flooding The Zone With Truth Ft. Ben Meiselas of MeidasTouch
This is Gavin Newsom
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3.0 • 7.2K Ratings
🗓️ 30 October 2025
⏱️ 75 minutes
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Summary
Gavin sits down with Ben Meiselas, co-founder of MeidasTouch and one of the most influential progressive voices in digital media. Meiselas breaks down how independent creators are outpacing corporate media, why Democrats must “flood the zone with the truth,” and how the right exploits tragedy to manipulate public perception.
From Trump’s con on American farmers to the potential selling out of Taiwan to China to the future control of TikTok, this conversation dives deep into the moral vacuum of today’s GOP and what it really means to fight back. Plus how Trump’s DOJ is threatening future elections and how the government shutdown could spell the end of the filibuster.
00:00 - Intro
1:13 - More Downloads Than Rogan, More Views Than Fox
5:28 - Flood The Zone With The Truth
8:10 - Borrowing From Mr. Beast
14:47 The Right’s Ability to Exploit Tragedy
18:45 Trump As A White House Wrecking Ball
25:03 How Trump Conned Farmers & The American People
28:44 Would Trump Trade Taiwan For TikTok?
34:04 Why Fighting Back Helps Democrats Become More Popular
42:10 Are We Just Reacting To What Trump Wants?
51:27 The American People Are Suffering Domestically Because Of Trump’s Policies
57:20 The Founding Fathers Never Considered A Low Moral Character President
1:01:23 The Shutdown Is Going To Kill The Filibuster
1:05:37 The Department Of Justice, Election Observers and Voter Intimidation
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| 0:00.0 | He's strong, wrong, and fraud. |
| 0:02.6 | I think the Democratic Party just isn't saying, I'm going to freaking fight for you. |
| 0:06.1 | It's not about power, dominance, and aggression. |
| 0:08.7 | It's about empathy, compassion, collaboration. |
| 0:11.2 | Those are the superpowers. |
| 0:12.3 | I don't wake up and go, this is how I make money. |
| 0:14.4 | And I go, this is life or death. |
| 0:16.4 | So in today's podcast, I have someone very excited to bring on the air, someone who's just lighting |
| 0:23.1 | it up with the pro-democracy network he's built, Midas Touch. |
| 0:28.3 | Ben and his two brothers took an idea, penn to paper in 2021, and they built one of the most |
| 0:35.7 | important networks in the United States of America. |
| 0:40.2 | I'm looking forward to this free-ranging conversation. |
| 0:43.0 | We're going to talk Trump-Trumpism. |
| 0:44.5 | We're going to talk about the government shutdown. |
| 0:46.4 | But I also look forward to talking about Ben, how Democrats can come out of the wilderness, |
| 0:51.3 | how we can get back on our feet, how we can move away from being a party that's identified as weak to a party that can once again assert ourselves |
| 0:57.9 | much more formally using our moral authority and our formal authority and how we can take on |
| 1:03.5 | Trump and Trumpism and win the 2026 congressional race. |
| 1:10.5 | This is Gavin Newsom. |
| 1:13.6 | And this is Ben Mazzales. |
| 1:17.6 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 1:22.3 | Yeah, you're in my studio now. |
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