And the Empire Strikes Back & Never Turn Your Back on Them w/ Ben Rappaport
That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
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4.6 • 7.1K Ratings
🗓️ 3 June 2025
⏱️ 139 minutes
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Summary
This week, Kara and Liza cover two SVU episodes: “And the Empire Strikes Back” and “Never Turn Your Back on Them” (Season 23, Episodes 1 & 2). They also investigate the disgusting deeds of disgraced former Congressman Matt Gaetz and interview the incredibly charming Ben Rappaport (The Good Wife, Grosse Pointe Garden Society).
SOURCES:
The 19th News
NPR
ABC News
Axios
BBC
Legistorm
PBS
WHYY
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Let Her Go Home
Next week’s episode will be “Delinquent” (Season 12, Episode 23).
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| 0:00.0 | This is exactly right. |
| 0:06.1 | Of the Law and Order franchises, |
| 0:08.1 | SVU is considered especially watchable. |
| 0:10.7 | We are the amateur detectives |
| 0:11.9 | who kind of investigate the vicious felonies |
| 0:14.0 | these episodes are based on. |
| 0:15.6 | These are our stories. |
| 0:17.1 | Dun-dun! |
| 0:17.7 | Dun! Dun, done. |
| 0:41.7 | Hello and welcome to That's messed up. I'm one of your hosts, Kara Klank. And I'm Lisa Trager, and we're here talking SVU, True Crime, Celebr guests, Action, Adventure, Gossip, Chats. |
| 0:52.5 | What's up? What's up? |
| 0:55.5 | We're recording this the day after Oscar's birthday. |
| 0:59.8 | So I have a bit of a throwing a barbecue hangover. |
| 1:04.7 | But I'm taking him to Disney next week. |
| 1:07.2 | So that's the real party. |
| 1:09.5 | The real parties next week. Well, yeah, I guess, so you did a |
| 1:13.4 | like a Memorial Day birthday combo or no mention of Memorial Day? Not really any mention of Memorial Day. |
| 1:21.0 | And honestly, like, I really wanted it to be very small. And then he was like, I just want to |
| 1:24.8 | invite five girls from my class. And I was like, |
| 1:30.5 | none of your, like the boys, because I know you're friends with some boys in your class. |
| 1:34.5 | He's like, nope, just these five girls. And I was like, well, I'll invite everybody. And like, |
| 1:38.8 | I bet it's Memorial Day people can't come. And then four out of five could come. So it turned into like a bigger thing than I thought. But it was really cute because he's really into princess dresses and stuff. |
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