What does it take to transform a company's mission into a movement?

I say it comes down to two things, math and magic.

I'm Bob Pittman, Chairman and CEO of I Heart Media.

On my podcast, Math and Magic, I sit down with the visionaries on the frontiers of marketing

to hear how they use data and creativity to bring big ideas to life.

We'll hear from business leaders like Susie Geary, CMO of Ford Motor Company.

We are at that moment when it all changes and I think that a big part of the why we're at that moment

is because of the F-150 Lightning.

It changed everything.

Listen to Math and Magic on our very own free I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

This is Mesters in Business with Barry Reynolds on Bloomberg Radio.

This week on the podcast, I have yet another extra special guest, Professor Anat Edmadi,

teaches at the Stanford Graduate School of Business.

She is an expert in so many fascinating areas that you wouldn't think are related,

but they really are.

Why has technology developed the way it has and more or less exempt from a lot of government regulations

or protected by government regulations?

Turns out their business model is a little similar to the way the banking industry has managed to capture a lot of regulators

and continue to operate fairly freely without the sort of regulation and capital requirements

and equity requirements that would make banking safer.

Really a fascinating conversation about everything from misinformation to technology to banking and financial fragility.

I found the discussion to be quite fascinating and I think you will also, with no further ado, my interview with Professor Anat Edmadi

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