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All right, it is Thursday, January 15th.

It's only two weeks since the new year.

And I am joined by not only Chacha, but her lovely mother, Anna Navar.

Welcome to Behind the Table. You're clad in Miami again. I have to notice this is a trend.

Oh, yes. You know, I, the NCAA championship is this

weekend, so I'm all into it. We can talk about it. Yeah, well, we'll get there, but let's start with

some hot topics because we've been talking all week about the ice raids and what's happening in

Minnesota in the wake of the killing of Renee Good, and now another shooting during a raid yesterday.

What are your thoughts on all of this? I know we've talked a little bit about it on the show, but. Look, I think, I think

what's happened in Minnesota and the killing of Renee Good was the tipping point, but I think

this has been at a boiling point and building up for months because

Americans have been seeing the performative cruelty by ICE agents enabled and emboldened by

Donald Trump and his minions. So we have seen despite how many, Donald Trump and his spokespeople tell us

that they are taking the worst on the worst,

that they are heinous criminals,

that they are rapists, that they are killers,

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