An Upside-Down Food Pyramid & New "Healthy" Labels Won't Save Us (w/ EC Synkowski)
Chasing Excellence
Ben Bergeron & Patrick Cummings
4.8 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 19 January 2026
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
What if the real problem with America's health crisis isn't a lack of guidance — but too much noise? In this special crossover episode from The Consistency Project podcast, EC Synkowski joins us to break down the latest USDA dietary guidelines and FDA labeling rules, revealing why neither will actually move the needle on public health. You'll discover why the government keeps getting nutrition guidance wrong, what's really driving our health crisis, and why you already have everything you need to cut through the confusion.
This is about more than nutrition policy — it's about reclaiming your agency to make simple choices in a system designed to overwhelm you. EC brings her signature clarity to help you shut out the noise and get back to what actually works: whole foods, proper amounts, boring basics. If you've ever felt paralyzed by conflicting nutrition advice, this conversation will set you free.
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| 0:54.7 | Hello, and welcome back to the show. |
| 0:58.0 | I'm Patrick. |
| 0:58.8 | Today's episode, a wee bit different. |
| 1:01.3 | In fact, we have done this once in to us, but it's a little bit different than our usual. |
| 1:04.5 | We are bringing over two episodes, two conversations from another podcast of mine called |
| 1:09.8 | The Consistency Project that I do with |
| 1:12.5 | our friend E.C. Sankowski. EC is by far my go-to for all things nutrition. She is an absolute |
| 1:19.7 | master at simplifying, clarifying, and synthesizing what can be incredibly complex science |
| 1:24.9 | into stuff that actually makes sense for us normal muggles. |
| 1:30.4 | If you've been listening to Chasing Excellence for a while, you already know her. |
| 1:34.5 | In fact, the last time we did this very thing, bringing some episodes over was back in |
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