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Hey, this is Annie.

And Samantha.

I'm welcome to Stuff I'm Never Told You, a prediction of IHeart Radio.

And today, as we're entering the new year, we wanted to check back in with what's going on with podcasting.

We've done this a couple of times.

You know, it's our industry.

It's what we do.

So we're like, hey, what's going on here?

And to be honest, not a lot of progress has happened. And in some cases, some backsliding has happened.

And for this episode, we are primarily focused on some new research out of USC Annenberg. That was about this whole thing.

So, at the end of 2025,

USC Annenberg released a study about race and gender and popular podcast.

As they noted in their study,

2025 was a big year for podcasting. For example, it was the first time the Golden Globes included nominations

for podcast. Annie, did you know in their 25 list? Did you look at this?

Yeah. Stuff you should know was included. Our very own OG was included as a possible contender

for being nominated for the first ever podcasting category

of the Golden Globes. I know. And they won, of course, which is really, really disheartening.

But yes, they were in that list because, as they should be, they've been in the top 10 podcast

for the last, what, 10, 20 years? I don't know how

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