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Tanya Mosley and as we count down to the election abortion remains a top

concern among voters. Abortion rights are on the ballot in nine states this November.

At the same time, since Roe v. Wade was overturned,

states like Georgia, Texas, and North Dakota

are battling this issue out in court, including the scope

of abortion access and whether it should be on the ballot.

Joining me today to talk about access, the fate of in vitro fertilization and where the presidential

candidates stand is Mary Ziegler, the Martin Luther King Jr. Professor of Law at

UC Davis School of Law. She is the author of seven books on reproduction, autonomy,

and the law, including Dollars for Life,

the anti-abortion movement, and the fall

of the Republican establishment,

and Roe, the history of a national obsession.

Her new book, Personhood, The New Civil War over Reproduction, will be published in April of 2025. Mary Ziegler, welcome back to Fresh Air.

Thanks for having me.

Abortions have actually gone up since the overturning of Roby Wade.

I'm just curious as a historian, does criminalizing abortion stop people from having

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