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Hey everybody, this is Heidi St. John. Welcome to the Busy Mom Podcast. I am so glad that

you're here today. I'm sitting here across the table from my dear friend, Dorenda, who

is a mother of eight children. They range an age from 10 to 24. 10 to 24, and I have seven

children. They range an age from four and a half to almost 24. So we're just kind of

neck and neck with each other in the homeschooling, mothering arena. I just found I'm going to have

my second grandchild the other day. So I'm trying to catch up with Dorenda. It wasn't

really a race when we were having children, but now it feels like it could be a competition.

We're competition. Yeah, now it feels like there could be some competition involved.

My ran into you, Zon. We are just here to encourage you. I don't often talk about what my

husband and I do, but I hope that you will take the opportunity and go check it out.

You can visit me at thebusymom.com. The non-profit organization that my husband and I run is

called firmly planted family. It was born out of our absolute belief that our culture is

desperately in need of returning to biblical values and to know what the word of God and

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