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The Bulwark Podcast

An Undue Risk of Conviction

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

News, Politics, Society & Culture, News Commentary

4.611.6K Ratings

🗓️ 12 October 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Jack Smith signaled he will be able to prove why Trump held onto the classified documents. Plus, Trump’s claim of presidential immunity, chaos in the House, and the pro-Hamas left’s justification of murder. Ben Wittes joins Charles Sykes for The Trump trials.

show notes:
https://www.dogshirtdaily.com/p/how-not-to-respond-to-a-terrorist

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the new edition of the Trump Trials. I'm Charlie Seax. We're joined by Ben Wittis of Law Fair. Boy, there is so much going on here. I mean, I need to have a scorecard. We have the document case down in Florida. We have the election subversion case in Washington, D.C. We have the racketeering case in Georgia, we have a

0:25.1

fraud case in New York, and, indeed, to forget, we also have the felony charges about paying

0:30.2

hush money to a porn star also in New York.

0:33.6

But before we get to that, Ben, there's just so many other things

0:36.0

that we just have to get to.

0:37.0

And I apologize in advance because I did not warn you

0:39.8

that there would be math today.

0:41.8

But I want to talk about the fact that at a moment of international crisis,

0:45.7

the House of Representatives is absolutely paralyzed.

0:49.6

No speaker can't get anything done.

0:52.2

As you and I are talking there's no there's really no

0:54.4

indication that anybody would want this. Hey I'm sure there's cool things about

0:58.1

being a speaker. I mean I've been in the office they got a great porch you know

1:01.8

get people call you Mr. Speaker, you get the

1:03.6

gavel. Kevin McCarthy gets the portrait, you know there's a certain amount of power and

1:07.1

ego, but it is I think objectively speaking the shittiest job in

1:10.9

Washington, but Steve Scalise wants it. And here's the math. The

1:15.4

Republicans get together to vote on a speaker and they vote 113 votes for

1:20.4

Steve Scalise, 99 for Jim Jordan. Actually it was closer than that. If you take out the

1:26.7

members of Congress that don't actually get to vote, Scalese only gets about

1:30.1

110 votes, which means that he has to flip 107 votes. In order to get, and

1:39.8

here's the key number, 217 votes to be elected.

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