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The Bitter Southerner Podcast

An Undeserved Gift: Okra

The Bitter Southerner Podcast

GPB Digital

Society & Culture

4.6 β€’ 1.4K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 13 December 2019

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Okra is not native to North America. It arrived here at the same time enslaved Africans did. No one β€” no botanist, no historian β€” can confirm exactly how it got here. But it has connected Southerners across the lines of race, faith, and gender for centuries. In this episode of The Bitter Southerner Podcast, James Beard Award winning journalist Shane Mitchell travels to New Orleans to show how okra unites in the gumbo pot and in our lives.

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0:00.0

Support for GPB comes from the Galloway School where students ages 3 through grade 12 are part of a community where learning is joyful, individuals are valued, and self-discovery is encouraged.

0:11.0

Openhouse is December 3rd.

0:12.6

More info at Galloway School.org.

0:15.1

Welcome neighbors to the Bitter Southerner podcast from Georgia Public Broadcasting

0:26.8

in the magazine I edit The Bitter Southerner.

0:29.9

My name is Chuck Reese and you're listening to the third episode of our second season. My good friend John T. Edge of the Southern Food Ways Alliance once told

0:39.2

me that food on the table among people ought to provoke conversation about where that food came from.

0:47.3

You reach for the Okra, for instance, and suddenly you have a reason to talk about the

0:50.9

African roots of the South.

0:53.0

And the moral of John T's story is that reconciliation is what comes from conversation.

0:59.0

And that conversation is always easier over good food.

1:04.6

But bound up in many iconic southern foods

1:07.8

is our history and truth as southerners.

1:11.6

There are our precious memories of growing, cooking, eating, and sharing them.

1:17.0

But there are also the unavoidable truths about how the white planters of the South

1:21.4

depended on enslaved human beings and put a higher market

1:25.4

value on the slaves who had particular expertise in how to bring those iconic crops out of

1:31.8

the ground.

1:32.7

It was true for peanuts, for rice, and for many others.

1:37.1

When it comes to Okra, there are many stories about how it got to the new world,

1:41.6

but none of them are confirmable. So we really only

1:45.4

know for sure two things about how Okra got to North America. One, the plant is not native to the North American continent. And two, it got here

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