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This is Scientific American Science Talk podcast and I'm your host, Pachina Maimer. Today we talk about endangered species and the complicated birth of the wildlife and conservation movement that we know today.

My guest is Michelle Nihals.

Nihals is a biologist and an award-winning science reporter who traced the history of the movement

and recently wrote a book about the lives and ideas of the men and women who not only transitioned

into this new field, but shaped it from the ground up.

The book is called Beloved Beasts, Fighting for Life in an Age of Extinction,

and it's the case for looking to the past to see the future, that of wildlife in the conservation field.

The historical account is heartfelt, engrossing, thought-provoking, even brutal at times,

but always painfully honest.

In her storytelling, Michelle doesn't gloss over the dark moments, moments

with racism, colonialism, privilege, or cut-throat competition. Quote, the story of modern species

conservation is full of people who did the wrong things for the right reasons and the right

things for the wrong reasons, she writes. It begins in wealthy countries and in colonized

territory, but it's because of her bold literary choices that the transformative and

transcendent moments in this history shine a little brighter. It begins with the American

bison, or if you want to be more accurate, the scientific name is bison, bison, bison.

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