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journalism. So Matt, the grimmest of grim anniversaries. I mean, as horrific as the day itself was,

and you know, one remembers that day and actually how quite slowly the scale and horror of the of the atrocities came

through last October the 7th I don't know about you but I would not expect I didn't expect

that day I knew that it would lead to carnage I knew that it would lead to controversy

the region always does spawn those things when there's a conflict, as there was clearly

going to be.

What I didn't see coming was that by the first anniversary of October the 7th, we'd be pretty

much in a full-blown regional war where the questions being asked are no longer just

what to do about Hamas, what to do about the civilian toll in Gaza, what to do about the

future of the Palestinian people, what to do about Israeli security, the kind of immediate

suite of questions that arose.

But you've got people

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