Hey Fantae fam, it's producer swish here and Jared and Trevelle wanted me to let y'all know

that we recorded this episode last Friday and of course the Emmys took place this past Monday.

This is obviously incredibly disappointing for anyone who wanted to hear what they had to say about

the Emmys. I honestly don't know how they sleep at night but apparently they don't have any trouble.

That said the episode that you're about to hear is super fun. I think you're all really going to enjoy it.

Welcome to Fantae the podcast for all of those complex and complicated conversations about the

great areas in our lives. I'm entertainment journalist, editor, author, rest, times two,

your boy, your girl. You're everything in between and beyond Trevelle. I understand.

I am hot but not heated. That would be a say reference. I don't know if Trevelle's got that.

I'm not. I am sweating but not stinking. Jared Hill, we are excited to have you back here for

Fantae. We are getting into this conversation. As journalists we might call this like a third

day story right after the conversation has existed out in the world for a little bit and we want

to analyze it a little bit more broadly. We're talking about R&B and whether or not it is dead,

what that conversation is even about. We have two guests that are going to contextualize us for

us and I'm excited about that so we're going to get into that. But first, we are going to do another

a tough question. Again, these are, you know, conversation points, Jerry and I are having maybe

you're having it on social media that, you know, it's a tough question. This one is actually a

submission from our wonderful producer, Laura Swisher. And there's a story from earlier this year

from the San Francisco Chronicle about a social studies teacher at San Francisco's creative arts

chart of school who brought in cotton plants or balls to class in March so her eighth graders

could feel the sharp edges that had pierced our ancestors hands while picking cotton and pulling

out the seeds. The lesson was about the cotton gin and the impact it had on slavery and the

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