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Fly on the Wallin with Amber and Ben

An Otherworldly Interview with Author Nisi Shawl | Episode 19

Fly on the Wallin with Amber and Ben

The Sci-Fi Sigh Podcast

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51.2K Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2021

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

This week Amber and Ben sat down with Author Nisi Shawl to talk about their most recent book "Talk Like A Man," and their editing work for the 2020 World Fantasy award winning collection "New Suns". Nisi Shawl’s essay "Crash Course in Science Fiction" has been a guide for this podcast, but Nisi has also won an Otherwise Award (formerly the Tiptree Award) for their short collection "Filter House" and has been a Nebula finalist and Otherwise Honoree for their novel "Everfair," an alternate history in which the Congo overthrows King Leopold II’s genocidal regime. Finally, Nisi is an educator and they co-wrote "Writing the Other: A Practice Approach," now the standard text on diverse character representation in the imaginative genres.

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0:00.0

Welcome to The Side by Side, a podcast about black science fiction, fantasy, and staying

0:09.3

on the same page in this amazing marriage.

0:12.0

I'm one of your co-hosts Amber Wylin, and then we'll be joining us soon.

0:16.2

This week, we sat down with award-winning author, Nisi Shaw.

0:20.4

Today, we'll be interviewing Nisi on their most recent book, Top Like A Man, and their

0:24.5

work on the 2020 World Fantasy Award-winning collection, New Suns.

0:29.0

Nisi Shaw's essay, Crash Course in Science Fiction, has been a guide for this podcast.

0:34.4

But Nisi is also one and otherwise award, formerly the Tiptree Award, for their short

0:38.5

collection filter house, and has a nebula finalist and otherwise honoree for their novel

0:43.8

Everfair, an alternate history in which the Congo overthrows King Leopold II's

0:48.8

genocidal regime.

0:49.8

Finally, Nisi is an educator, and they co-wrote writing the other a practice approach,

0:55.3

which is now the standard text on diverse character representation in imaginative genres.

1:00.4

So let's jump right into our interview with Nisi Shaw.

1:04.1

In your most recent book, Top Like A Man, your bibliography of nonfiction is almost as

1:10.3

long as your fiction.

1:11.7

Your essay, particularly a Crash Course of Black Science Fiction, has been an invaluable

1:16.2

guide on this podcast.

1:18.2

So we were just wondering, if you were to write your PhD on science fiction, what would

1:21.9

it be on?

1:22.9

I have no idea, I mean, I am a college dropout, right?

1:28.7

So if I wrote my PhD on science fiction, it would probably be a novel.

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