Hello and welcome back to another episode of App Stories. This episode is brought to you by none other than vitally. I am John Vorey's. And with me is Federico Vitechi.

Hey, Federico.

Hello, John.

Hello.

How are you?

I'm doing great.

How about yourself?

I am feeling relaxed after the weekend.

We're recording this on Monday.

And yeah, it's a, I think it's going to be a busy week.

I feel like, you know, by the time this episode comes out for members, maybe we will have a WWC announcement or maybe not. But when we're recording this, there's no way to know. There is no way to know. Yeah. Yeah, and, you know, people, by the time this comes out, people will know that we have updated our setups too on the

website so go check out macstories.net because slas setups because federico and i try to update our

setups so like four times a year roughly you know once a quarter so yeah once a quarter more or less

more or less more or less and it's just if you're interested at all in the kind of gear that we use for the various things that we do, it's a good way to do that.

So check that on the site.

But today's topic is not gear.

Today's topic is open claw, but by Apple.

All right.

Good luck.

This is imagining a world where Apple did something similar to OpenClaught.

And I think before we even get into the depths of this, I think we really kind of need to set out what the big deal is about some of this agentic stuff because I feel like

you know there are a lot of people who have not tried open call I've tried it and abandoned it

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