An Open Discussion About Being Trans, Detransitioning, And Has Gender Affirming Care For Kids Gone Too Far? Monday, April 15th, 2024 | Sarah Fraser

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🗓️ 15 April 2024

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Join me in this eye-opening episode where we dive deep into the world of transgender identity, the process of transitioning, and the rarely discussed topic of detransitioning. I invited two special guests, Gabe Pagoba from "90 Day Fiance" and TikTok influencer Alia Ismail, to share their personal journeys and experiences. Gabe, who transitioned several years ago, opens up about his life as a trans man, the challenges he faced, and the importance of understanding the gravity of gender transition surgeries. Alia, with a significant TikTok following, discusses her experience of transitioning from female to male and then detransitioning back to female. She sheds light on the complexities of gender identity, the role of therapists, and the societal pressures that come with transitioning. #TransIdentity #Detransitioning #GenderDysphoria #90DayFiance #TikTok #Therapy #LGBTQ #SarahFraserShow #Podcast #RealStories Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Introduction to the episode 00:10 - Sarah's curiosity about trans identity and detransitioning 00:31 - Media portrayal of detransitioning and its impact 01:03 - Introducing guests Gabe Pagoba and Alia 03:36 - The role of therapists in gender transition 04:23 - Gabe and Alia discuss when they knew they were trans 12:38 - The guests' perspectives on therapists' roles and the influence of pharmaceuticals 19:01 - Gabe and Alia's experiences with surgeries and societal support 27:23 - Alia's detransitioning process and the reactions she received 33:15 - Gabe's continued journey as a trans man and family acceptance Show is sponsored by: ***Visit our Sub-Reddit: reddit.com/r/thesarahfrasershow for ALL things The Sarah Fraser Show!!!*** Carawayhome.com use code TSFS for 10% OFF your order at check out Eu Natural on Amazon use code FRASER20 for 20% OFF the conception bundle for HER and HIM Horizonfibroids.com get rid of those nasty fibroids! Hungryroot.com/tsfs use my link to get 40% OFF your first order and free veggies for life Myoptimalbody.com mention The Sarah Fraser Show for a FREE consultation and bonus 30-day FREE supply of their gut repair product Nutrafol.com use code TSFS for FREE shipping and $10 off your subscription Oneskin.co use code TSFS for 15% OFF your fabulous order Two Dots: Brain Puzzle Game download the FREE IOS and Apple puzzle game to relax your mind and unwind Upliftdesk.com use code TSFS for 5% OFF your order and check out their 4.9star customer service rating on Google **Check out some of my FAVORITE things on Amazon Marketplace - especially if you're looking to get geared-up to start your own Podcast!!!** https://www.amazon.com/shop/thesarahfrasershow Advertise on The Sarah Fraser Show: thesarahfrasershow@gmail.com Got a TIP about your favorite show? Email: thesarahfrasershow@gmail.com Follow me on Instagram: @thesarahfrasershow Follow me on Tiktok: @thesarahfrasershow Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/SarahFraserShow Book me on Cameo: cameo.com/sarahfraser Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Sarah,
0:04.0	some day phrase.
0:06.0	Uh-huh.
0:07.0	Sarah Sarah!
0:08.0	Sarah!
0:09.0	Hi, Phrajiacs, new episode.
0:11.0	I have been so curious, I'm sure like you.
0:13.0	I follow all things pop culture in the news and parenting things,
0:17.0	and I've really wanted to take a deeper dive into trans. Trans people,
0:23.3	how somebody knows they're trans. And also there's a big movement on TikTok of people who are
0:29.6	detransitioning. And at least when you read the media headlines, which of course, if it
0:34.5	bleeds, it leads. I've worked in media a long time. And black and white against each other, that sells a lot.
0:39.5	And then also, of course, like trans versus everyone sells a lot, right?
0:42.7	A lot of clicks.
0:43.7	So if you follow those stories, you would think that there's a lot of, I guess, resentment.
0:52.2	If you detransition that trans people don't support detransitioners in their own
0:57.8	community. Well, is that true? And also this movement of therapists, are therapists really doing
1:04.4	right by our kids when it comes to their gender issues and their sexuality? Or are they too
1:09.9	afraid to speak up against parents and
1:12.2	children and say, maybe you're not trans. Maybe you need to wait. Well, I thought I'd go to the source.
1:16.7	So today we have Gabe Pagoba. You know him from 90-day fiancé. He's been on this show. He transitioned
1:23.1	several years ago. And he is a man. And then Alia.
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