An Obsession with Backrooms
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🗓️ 15 June 2026
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Summary
Two horror films by two young directors have outmuscled an honest-to-Grogu Star Wars to become the early box office surprises of the summer.
Guest: Justin Chang, film critic at The New Yorker
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| 0:00.0 | Justin Chang, film critic from over at The New Yorker, he sees a lot of movies. |
| 0:10.3 | But the other day, he admitted something to me. |
| 0:12.9 | Popcorn movies, Hollywood stuff, he is not really tracking that. |
| 0:17.6 | Like, I'm the type of person who doesn't, is not the first person to click on the |
| 0:20.8 | trailer or whatnot. I'm like, oh, that's opening. You're a film critic at the New Yorker. What? You know, we just, I'm, I, uh, you know, there's, I, I keep abreast of, of certain, you know, I'll know, oh, what's that, you know, cool Iranian film coming out, but, you know, Hollywood, I'm a little, I let it come, you know, we'll hear about it soon enough, right? |
| 0:40.7 | That meant that. funny in film coming out, but, you know, Hollywood, I'm a little, I let it come, you know, we'll hear about it soon enough, right? |
| 0:40.6 | That meant that earlier this month, when a couple of new horror movies came out, |
| 0:45.0 | backrooms and obsession, Justin wasn't exactly the first in line for screenings. |
| 0:50.3 | Backrooms he knew a little bit about. It was released by Indy Studio A24. |
| 0:55.1 | Backrooms was definitely on my radar. |
| 0:57.5 | And so I was definitely curious to see it and to write about it. |
| 1:02.0 | And then Obsession, which opened, I believe, a week before Backrooms did, was already doing phenomenal box office. |
| 1:10.0 | And I had just gotten back from the Cannes Film Festival and he's going to write about |
| 1:13.3 | background. |
| 1:13.6 | Oh, I think I should write about obsession too, because this clearly, this seems to be something |
| 1:17.6 | of a one to punch these two films. |
| 1:19.9 | And I saw them both like on consecutive days and was like, oh, yeah, this will work. |
| 1:25.7 | Over the last couple of weeks, these two movies have become a bit of a phenomenon. |
| 1:30.5 | Both raked in tens of millions of dollars, even though obsession costs less than a million to make. |
| 1:37.1 | Both films come from Internet First Directors, and those directors are young, think 20, 26. |
| 1:44.1 | Finally, each movie seems to capture a mood among young people, a dread. |
| 1:50.5 | Justin says, the films are actually pretty different, but he gets why people are lashing them together. |
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