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There's no question that as we become a net exporter of oil and or natural gas or petroleum products,

our relationship with saturday was going to be less necessary.

That being said, it'll always be important.

There's still going to be one of the world's largest producers of fossil fuel.

And that ain't going away anytime soon.

I mean, they still be able to affect the world price of oil.

They're also a critically important player in a very unstable region, a region that matters a lot.

For like for largely the same reasons, I'm going to reach its volatile region from which attacks against the United States,

catastrophic attacks have emanated.

And one where we want to keep our friends close to our enemies at bay.

I'm Benjamin Wittes and this is the LawFair podcast April 9th, 2019.

Our friends at the National Security Institute at George Mason University came over last week

to have a discussion in our podcast studio about Yemen and the US Saudi Alliance.

They're thinking of starting their own national security oriented podcast,

so we figured we'd let them take a turn on ours to try out the fun.

Four former Senate Foreign Relations Committee staffers who worked with and sometimes at odds with each other participated.

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