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The opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the participants, not of Reuters News. So the solution then is in hopes, these misplaced hopes for a reformation.

Oh, you know, it's just a matter of time and at least it is kind of patronizing discourse of,

hey, you Muslims, you'll get there in time, just be patient.

We went through it too we killed each other then we

got our act together let's not hope for something which is unlikely Can church and state be separated in an Islamic society? And is that even desirable?

This week on War College, we talk about Sharia

and how it fits into the politics that shape our world. You're listening to Reuters War College, a discussion of the world in conflict, focusing

on the stories behind the front lines.

Here are your hosts, Jason Fields, and Matthew Gault with

Royters.

And I'm Matthew Gault with War is Boring.

With us today is Shoddy Hamid.

He's a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, and he's the author of a new book, Islamic Exceptionalism,

How the Struggle Over Islam is Reshaping the World.

Today he's here with us to talk about one of America's greatest fears I guess political

Islam so shoddy thank you so much for joining us.

Hi thanks for having me so can we just start off by getting some basic terms set up?

What do you see as the difference between Islamism, Salafism, and jihadism? And by the way, any is am I mispronounce please let me know.

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