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The Lawfare Podcast

An Investigations Roundup

The Lawfare Podcast

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🗓️ 1 June 2021

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

It's been a crazy time for Trump investigations. There is a new one in the Eastern District of New York, a grand jury in Manhattan and ongoing investigations in the Southern District of New York. There's also a big throwback to the Mueller investigation—a smackdown between the current Justice Department and Judge Amy Berman Jackson over whether the Justice Department has to release documents from when Bill Barr was thinking about what to do with the Mueller report.

To talk it all over, Benjamin Wittes spoke with Lawfare senior editor Quinta Jurecic, Lawfare executive editor Scott Anderson and Jack Goldsmith of the Harvard Law School. They talked about what we can responsibly say about these new investigations, where they might be going and what the Justice Department's fight with Judge Jackson says about Bill Barr and his comments about the Mueller investigation. 

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That's patreon.com slash LawFair.

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Also, check out LawFair's other podcast offerings, rational security, chatter, LawFair

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no bull and the aftermath.

0:33.9

The first thing is wrong with it, it's not clearly written and it's hard to figure out

0:37.2

what she's arguing.

0:38.6

But the main thing that's wrong with it, I think the whole opinion or at least most of

0:41.8

it is just premised on a mistake.

0:44.7

It's a mistake that the Justice Department kind of, I think, over generously acknowledges

0:49.6

it contributed to.

0:51.8

I'm Benjamin Widis and this is the LawFair podcast June 1st, 2021.

0:58.8

It's been a crazy week in the Trump Investigations Land.

1:04.1

We have new investigations, one in the Eastern District of New York, a grand jury in Manhattan

1:11.8

and ongoing investigations in the Southern District of New York.

1:15.9

And we also have a big throwback to the Mueller investigation, a smack down between the Justice

1:23.0

Department, the current Justice Department and Judge Amy Berman Jackson over whether

1:29.1

the Justice Department has to release documents from when Bill Barr was thinking about what

1:35.6

to do with the Mueller report.

1:38.7

We got a heck of a group of people to talk about it together in the virtual jungle studio

1:44.6

with me joining from a moving train.

1:48.7

We have LawFair Senior Editor, Quintet Jurassic, LawFair Executive Editor, Scott Anderson,

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