Hey, hey, where you been? But got talk is about to begin. Hey, hey, hey, come on in.

Welcome back to Buckeye Talk, Doug Lamarice here with the special guest, Joshua Perry,

former Ohio State linebacker, national champion, NFL draft pick, big 10 network analyst,

best dressed Buckeye I've ever covered, one of the smartest Buckeyes I've ever covered. He

is joining me to talk about Urban Meyer. Talk a little bit about the state of college football right

now, update us on what he's doing, how he got into this media world. It's a great interview,

man. It's a great interview. And I wanted to talk about Urban Meyer, but not just have me talk,

but to have somebody who knows him on a different level, talk about it. And Joshua is played for

Urban for a long time, really smart, really honest. And I think this conversation is valuable. So

let's get to it. My general thoughts on Urban Meyer, I wrote a column about it at Cleveland.com

two days ago, as we are recording this on Friday morning, just that, you know, it's kind of

always been the same Urban. He needed to adjust in the NFL and he didn't. We'll talk more. I

still haven't done a survey with our tech subscribers about sort of what they think of it, how they

think their view of Urban and his seven winning years at Ohio State is that affected by anything

that's happened in Jacksonville. But we're just going to talk to Joshua and let him make us smarter.

So let's do that. Joshua Perry, Big Ten Network analyst, former Ohio State linebacker,

come on your way on Buckeye Talk. Privilege to be joined here on Buckeye Talk by Joshua Perry,

one of the finest Buckeyes I ever had the joy to cover at Ohio State, leading tackler for

national championship team, which is kind of a cool thing to hang on your resume. And Joshua,

before we get going here, I just want to make sure people know what you're doing because you're

lighting up the Big Ten Network and we know that. So let's start there. How did you get to the

Big Ten Network and what do you think of it so far? It was really unique. So I retired from

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