What's up, guys?

Welcome to a special bonus episode of dinner with the healers.

My name is Eric, and if this is your first time listening to us, we are normally an

episode by episode blueie podcast where we watch an

episode of blueie and then talk about it and the lessons we learned. In this special bonus

episode, I sat down and talked with Christopher Manino, the author of Making It Up, a revolutionary

way to bond with kids through play.

We had a really fun time talking about his book and the ideas behind it and how it relates to Bluey.

And I think that you guys are really going to enjoy it.

Christopher, thank you so much for being here today.

We're glad to have you.

Thanks so much for having me. Tell us a little bit about your book. So making it up,

this is a book and a course. They're both out there now. And the reason I'm on this podcast

right now is because they are a direct response to

Bluey. About three years ago, there was a woman who made all of the Bluey fan groups go mad.

I was in more than one of them. And this woman, a stay-at-home mom, went onto a magazine

and was basically saying that she hated Bluey because all of a sudden

her kids had unrealistic expectations about parenting.

That was kind of the title of her article, that the healers made parenting unrealistic.

And so I was kind of joking about this with my wife. We were just laughing.

And my wife just looks at me. Very, you know, my wife is very, very, I'm, you know, kind of

straightforward at times, wonderful person. But my wife, Rachel, she looks at me. She's just like,

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