An interview with a Hamas leader
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The Economist
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🗓️ 11 October 2023
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Summary
How does the Palestinian militant group justify the atrocities committed in Israel? Why has it done this? What does it plan to do with the hostages? In a conversation with Moussa Abu Marzouk, a senior official, Zanny Minton Beddoes, The Economist's editor-in-chief, presses for answers.
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| 0:51.2 | Not long after I spoke to you on the Intelligence yesterday, |
| 0:54.2 | colleagues of ours in Doha, the capital of Qatar, carried out an interview with Musa Abu Marzu. |
| 1:00.8 | Greg Karlstrom is our Middle East correspondent. |
| 1:04.0 | Abu Marzu is a senior political leader within Hamas. The group has both political and military |
| 1:11.1 | leaders. It also has officials who are based inside of Gaza and those who are based outside |
| 1:16.4 | of Gaza. He's in the latter camp. He's a political leader who has been based for a long time |
| 1:22.4 | in Cairo and is one of the political officials who deals with the outside world for Hamas. |
| 1:29.3 | On the morning of October 7th, Hamas fired more than 2,000 rockets at Israel and then it |
| 1:34.6 | was quickly discovered that that barrage was cover for a much bigger ground operation. |
| 1:39.9 | Hundreds of Hamas militants cut through the border fence separating Gaza and Israel. |
| 1:44.9 | They found out to cities and towns in southern Israel and they began killing Israelis and taking |
| 1:50.4 | hostages. As we know now, the death toll has risen above 1,200 Israelis and there are more than |
| 1:57.6 | 100 people who were abducted by Hamas and brought back to Gaza. |
| 2:02.4 | So Greg, tell us about this interview with Abu Marzuq. He spent over an hour speaking with us |
| 2:07.9 | from his office on the first floor of a non-descript building on the outskirts of Doha. |
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