An insider‘s view of the Chinese consumer credit landscape, with Zhong Liu and Ruifeng Liu
How to Lend Money to Strangers
Brendan le Grange
4.9 • 43 Ratings
🗓️ 22 July 2021
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
When Dr Ruifeng Liu was transferred to China, it was to help the Postal Savings Bank of China roll out consumer banking for the first time through their 40,000 branches. A decade later, even banks of this size are at risk of being sidelined by a pair of young upstarts.
In episode 4 of How to Lend Money to Strangers, I speak to Dr Zhong Liu and Dr Ruifeng Liu - both of whom have extensive credit careers spanning the West and the East - about the consumer credit landscape in China, what factors enabled the astronomic growth of AliPay and WeChat Pay, and the complications have arisen alongside it.
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| 0:00.0 | Thank you for myself. I haven't carried my wallet. Like my agriculture wallet for the last five years. |
| 0:07.1 | If I go also, I just need to manage myself. Like my cell phone is my most important property. |
| 0:14.1 | I buy my wallet so that 1000 |
| 0:40.6 | The very first incarnation of Citibank opened in September 1812. |
| 0:49.5 | Two hundred years later, they operate two and a half thousand branches in 160 countries |
| 0:55.1 | and employ a little over 200,000 people for a market capitalisation in the region of |
| 0:59.5 | 200 billion US dollars. |
| 1:02.1 | And financial, on the other hand, has a workforce one-twelfth of that, operates no branches |
| 1:07.6 | and has a history that goes back only as far as 2014. |
| 1:11.2 | And yet, in the excitement of last year's later abandoned IPO, they were valued as much |
| 1:16.2 | as 50% higher than city. |
| 1:18.8 | This is hard to lend money to strangers, a podcast about lending strategy, and I'm your |
| 1:23.1 | host, Brendan Lagrange. |
| 1:25.6 | In tonight's episode, I take a closer look at the consumer credit marketplace in China |
| 1:29.8 | with two expert guests, Dr. Zong Liu and Dr. Riefeng Liu. |
| 1:34.4 | Despite their shared surnames and impressive credentials, they are not related, but both |
| 1:38.8 | men do share a similar background. |
| 1:41.3 | Both completed their PhDs and began their credit risk careers in North America, and both |
| 1:46.1 | have spent much of the last decade back in China shaping the consumer credit landscape |
| 1:50.4 | that enabled and impressive growth. |
| 1:52.8 | We talk about some of the factors that allowed the two big super apps to assume the positions |
| 1:57.0 | of great power they hold today. |
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