Arizona already has laws that prevent fraudulent ballot collection.

This law actually criminalizes non-fraudulent ballot collection.

Because it puts us at a competitive disadvantage relative to Democrats.

Politics is a zero-sum game.

Rights don't arise because someone has wronged you.

Rights arise because you disagree with other people.

Because you have different values and different commitments from other people.

Hi, and welcome back to Amicus. This is Slate's podcast about the courts and the law, the Supreme Court, the rule of law.

I'm Dahlia Lithwick.

I covered those things for Slate.

And we have somehow achieved a milestone anniversary on this show one year today podcasting from

the basement. I do hope you and yours are well. Since we last spoke, there's been a good

deal of legislative action to relieve COVID, to relieve economic suffering in general, and also to attempt to protect the vote.

Merrick Garland was confirmed as Attorney General this week, and John Roberts dissented alone

for the first time ever. On this show, we're going to dive in on two issues that are very

top of mind, at least for me, one voting rights, two rights.

So we're going to talk to Jessica Ringaminson, who argued a key voting rights case before the

U.S. Supreme Court last week. And then we're going to talk to Jamal Green, who has been examining

where rights and the law have gone astray in his new book, How Rights Went

Wrong. Later on in the show, Slate Plus members will get to stick around with us for my

regular catch-up and gossip with Mark Joseph Stern. We're going to talk about that lonely John

Roberts descent and racism at law school. If you're not a Slate Plus member, do join us. Membership

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