Hi, this is Sarah Perkins-Saby, one of the authors of the Bible storybook. We're so excited to have partnered with Faith Matters to bring you beautifully told scripture stories as a podcast that you can listen to with your kids and share with your friends and family. We're making half of the stories available completely free as a podcast called Scripture Stories for Little Saints, and the other half are available to donors and friends of Faith Matters as a thank you for your financial support that makes this collaboration possible.

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We're so excited to share these stories with you and can't wait for you to hear them.

Now on to the podcast.

Hey everybody, this is Aubrey Chavez from Faith Matters. Today we're joined by our friend Patrick

Mason and filmmaker Robert Reynolds. Rob is the director and producer of a new docu

series called An Inconvenient Faith. It's a project that is already opening hearts and

starting some long overdue conversations. This series is raw and honest and it takes on some

of the most difficult and tender topics in our faith tradition, things like women and authority,

LGBT belonging, race and the priesthood, and lots more.

It brings together voices from across the spectrum, people who have stayed and who are still

engaging these issues and people who have decided to step away. But all of them have one

thing in common. They've wrestled with these big questions, with their whole hearts. And for many

of us, this is going to hit close to home. These aren't abstract issues. This is about our families and our friends and our wards. And so it can be hard to hear a story that challenges your own. But Robb explains that his intention here is to help us love better, to help us listen longer and more generously. It's a glimpse into the inner wrestle of people that you may know and love to remind us that behind every decision is a real human being and behind these questions is a heart that wants to do what's right. This episode is for anyone who loves someone who has landed in a different place in their faith. If you're looking for peace, for more trust, and for more compassion in the middle of complexity, we think that you'll find something meaningful here. We're so grateful to Rob and Patrick for showing us what that can look like. And with that, we'll jump right in. All right. Well, Rob and Patrick, welcome. Welcome back, Patrick. And Rob, it's so great to finally meet you in person. We're just honored to have you on to talk about an inconvenient phase. So thanks for being here. Yeah, of course. Nervous, anxious, but you guys have a great podcast and I feel strongly the need to get this

out there. Oh, thank you. Well, thank you for doing it. Yeah, it means a lot that you would say yes.

I'd love to actually, I expect that a lot of people in the audience will have watched the whole

series already. So we're excited to be able to kind of

dig into the genesis of the project and what you were hoping it would become and how it has evolved

over time. And I know that this has been such a long time coming. So how did the idea come about and what

were you sort of imagining for it? So a couple things. So how it came about. It started during the filming of Believer,

a documentary featuring my brother Dan and on LGBT issues. And I started to get this

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