We've got to address the suburban women problem because it's real.

Suburban women helped determine the 2020 election, but there's more to us in the headlines

would have you believe.

The suburbs aren't a homogeneity of white people in perfect houses.

Real change is happening in the suburbs, and we have things to say.

When women share their personal stories

walls come down and barriers are broken welcome to the suburban women problem a podcast from red

wine and blue hi everyone thanks for listening i'm amanda weinstein i'm jasmine clark I'm Rachel Vindman. And this is the Suburban Women Problem. So on today's episode, we're going to talk about our kids' education and what we're teaching them about race and history in this country. Later on, we'll be speaking with Juliette Cunley, a psychologist in North Carolina, for another mom's perspective on how to talk to our kids

about race and American history.

And after that, I get the chance to interview

the brilliant author, Heather McGee,

so be sure to stick around for that.

So before we jump into this topic,

we wanna start by being open and honest. Many of us, including myself, have a

tendency to shut down when anyone talks about racism because it feels very uncomfortable.

I think about it kind of the way I think about how the disability community has really

had to fight for certain things, inclusivity into society. There was a time

where handicapped ramps were not a thing. You know, if you couldn't climb those stairs,

you just couldn't go up there. Take that and apply that to black people who are in a place, in a society where when they were brought here,

they were not even really considered human. They were considered basically a machine meant to

fuel our economy. And so we are dealing with having to retrofit society to include

black people. And you know, you might say, well, we've come a long way. And yes, we have. I will

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