On this episode of Dadville, Dave and Jon interview Reggie Dabbs and John Driver about their book, Not So Black and White, An Invitation to Honest Conversations. The four engage in a respectful and challenging chat about racism in America, and touch on good ways to have conversations with your children regarding racism. Thanks to our sponsors! Policy Genius - When it comes to insurance, it's nice to get it right. Begin comparing quotes at PolicyGenius.com. Ultimate Ears - For a limited time, get 15% off your pair of Ultimate Ears FITS True Wireless Earbuds at ue.com/fits. Just use promo code DADVILLE at checkout. Our Sponsors:* Check out ByHeart and use the code DADVILLE to get 10% off your first order: https://byheart.com/* Check out Factor 75 and use our code dadville50 for 50% off: https://www.factor75.comPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices