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Homebrewed Christianity

An Existential Road Trip with Dan Koch

Homebrewed Christianity

Dr. Tripp Fuller | Theologian, Philosopher, Minister

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.6612 Ratings

🗓️ 3 October 2023

⏱️ 114 minutes

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Summary

Dan Koch is one of my favorite people. He reached out to connect in person when he was thinking of starting a podcast, and since then, he has not only produced several quality podcasts, but I have grown to love having him in my life. Like all good elder millennials, nothing says, “dude, I love being your friend,” like a quality mixtape. In this episode, we make a playlist centered on our existential dread  If you liked this, check out his music podcast –  Pretty Good Vibrations analyzes and celebrates pop and rock music and its crucial role throughout our lives. Dan hosts the You Have Permission podcast and has seven years of podcasting experience, including previous shows Depolarize! (politics/psychology) and Reconstruct (theology). He holds a Master’s of Counseling Psychology and has completed doctoral coursework at Northwest University in Kirkland, WA. His research focuses on spiritual abuse, and his “Development of the Spiritual Harm and Abuse Scale” was published in 2022 by the Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion. In his clinical therapy practice, Dan specializes in working with religious issues, including religious trauma, and utilizes a cognitive-existential modality. He is skilled in making academic research accessible to a broad audience, keeping things interesting while responsibly maintaining the right amount of nuance. You can check out my previous convos with Dan here Only Friends Share Mixtapes Dabbling in Heresy You Have Permission to be Awesome with Dan Koch The Best Antidote to Rampant Partisanship with Dan Koch Religious Trauma, Bracketing Belief, & the Best Reason to Believe in God The Evangelical Youth Group Fantasy Draft Science and Spiritual Experience #Experiencing God Follow the podcast, drop a review, or become a member of the HBC Community. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Oh, yeah. What is up theology nerds? This is Tripp. And guess what? Today on Homebrewed Christianity, we got a special crossover episode with my friend Dan Koch, who hosts the You Have Permission podcast. And we have ourselves some fun.

0:23.2

We have some fun. Why? Why? Well, you're going to hear all about it. But this November,

0:28.7

we're going to be doing an open online class together, exploring existentialism in psychotherapy

0:37.4

and in theology.

0:39.1

Which means, which means we're going to get to read Paul Tillock's courage to be together.

0:43.3

Okay?

0:43.8

Let me just go ahead and cut to the chase.

0:45.4

It means we get to read Paul Tillock's courage to be together, which is one of the greatest

0:49.9

theological and existential text of all times.

0:53.7

It blew my mind when I read it in high school. I've read it multiple times since then. I love to get to teach it. And we're going to get to read it together. And then Dan's going to do his, oh, I'm a PhD student in psychology and existentialism thing. And we're going to do that too, all right, which I'm actually excited to learn about.

1:11.5

But we're going to read Paul Tillock's courage to be.

1:13.7

There's no reason not to go to exploring existentialism.com right now and sign up because

1:20.0

we're going to read Paul Tillis, courage to be together.

1:22.7

And talk about existentialism, facing our finitude, living before we die, and all the other good existential

1:28.4

things. And to introduce that, we're hanging out right now. And we take you on a little musical

1:35.0

journey through existentialism. We thought it'd be a fun way, fun way of us talking about the themes of

1:40.0

the class without digging into the themes of the class. You know what I mean? And it means we get to

1:43.8

talk about music. You know, normally when I prepare for an interview, I'm reading

1:49.6

a thinker's books. I'm maybe sitting there wrestling with the text, some articles. Who knows?

1:56.8

But, but like it's a different kind of preparation than this fun episode.

2:02.4

We had five different themes, and we each got to pick a song that explores them.

2:07.0

And, oddly enough, as you'll hear in this, I'll tell a little bit of these stories, is,

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