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🗓️ 22 November 2025
⏱️ 17 minutes
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Usha Vance was spotted out on official Second Lady duties without her wedding ring this week. Couple that, with the recent remarks from hubby J.D. saying he wished his wife would convert to Christianity to the controversial hug between Erika Kirk and J.D. Vance last month, and you’ve got divorce rumors circling the couple. Hear what Usha Vance said in response to all the negativity and why we liked it so much.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:06.1 | Hey there, folks. It is Saturday, November 22nd. |
| 0:10.1 | And the question on this Saturday, is there ever a good reason to leave behind your wedding ring? |
| 0:19.2 | Or how about this as a good reason? |
| 0:23.2 | I'm the second lady of the United States and a mother of three. Give me a friggin' break. And with that, welcome to this episode of |
| 0:28.0 | Amy and TJ. I didn't know this was a big deal. You said you had seen this story, other places, |
| 0:32.7 | I guess, during the week. Second lady out without a ring and, uh-oh, here we go. |
| 0:37.8 | She was on official duty as second lady. She was alongside Melania Trump. That sounds so weird. |
| 0:43.6 | Yeah, second lady. But she was in Camp Laune, so she was there on official duty. And so to forget your |
| 0:49.1 | wedding ring when you know there are photographers, you know there are going to be cameras following |
| 0:53.1 | you. That is why it seems suspicious. I think a lot of times, yes, you know there are going to be cameras following you. That is why it |
| 0:54.4 | seems suspicious. I think a lot of times, yes, you could leave your ring if you're going for a run |
| 0:59.3 | or you're running to the grocery store, but she was there and took the time to get dressed and |
| 1:04.0 | took the time to get ready. And so why would she not put on her wedding ring? |
| 1:09.1 | Do you then? I didn't plan to ask this early, but if you are this type of public figure, |
| 1:15.6 | is this a mistake you probably should not make? Just because it turns into what it has turned |
| 1:20.9 | into, which is unnecessary, but it's turned into all these rumor meals about where they are now |
| 1:25.9 | in their relationship, but also causing people |
| 1:27.7 | to go back and look at every other aspect of the relationship. |
| 1:30.4 | Yes. And the answer to that is, yes, she should have known better. She is a very public figure. |
| 1:35.8 | She knows she is going to be scrutinized. And look, you and I have been public figures and had to |
| 1:40.8 | make the decision when to take the ring off. When you're being photographed, you have a camera on you, |
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