An Epstein Survivor's Story: Abuse, Blackmail & Why She Thinks He's Still Alive (EP 192)
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Bryce Crawford
4.9 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 11 May 2026
⏱️ 124 minutes
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Summary
Marina Lacerda was 14 years old when she was brought into Jeffrey Epstein's world. She saw the photos on his wall. She heard the names. She was there.
Legally designated Minor Victim #1 in the Epstein case, Marina is the reason Jeffrey Epstein took the sweetheart deal. If she had testified, the entire investigation would have moved to New York - and the names on that wall would have come with it.
For nearly 20 years she stayed silent. The FBI came to her door twice. She nearly died hiding it. Then she walked into the United States Capitol and told the truth.
In this episode Marina shares everything - the abuse that started at age 8, how she ended up in Epstein's mansion at 14, the powerful men whose photos lined his walls, why she believes Jeffrey Epstein is still alive, and what she thinks really happened the night the world was told he died.
This is one of the most important conversations we've ever had on this podcast. Not because of the conspiracy. Because of the courage it takes to stand in the face of evil and refuse to stay silent.
Topics covered: Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, Minor Victim #1, sex trafficking, survivor testimony, US Capitol, sweetheart deal, faith and resilience
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Do you believe Jeffrey Epstein actually killed himself? |
| 0:02.0 | Absolutely not. |
| 0:03.0 | Who do you think had him killed? I don't think he's dead. Think he's still alive? I think so. Knowing Jeffrey Epstein for three years, he would never go down in history as a man that killed himself or allowed somebody to kill him. His ego and his pride is through the roof. So if you think he's still alive, where do you think he is? Totally laughing at us. I think he's in Israel. I was 14 when I met Jeffrey. I started working at 12. |
| 0:24.0 | And she turns to me one |
| 0:25.0 | day and she says I know this really rich and powerful guy and he really likes to |
| 0:28.7 | get massages from young girls it's just a massage marina like you've been through |
| 0:32.5 | so much worse with your stepfather I'm just like looking around and there's like |
| 0:36.4 | pictures of Prince Andrews president Trump Bill Clinton I'm just like looking around and there's like pictures of Prince Andrews, President Trump, Bill |
| 0:39.7 | Clinton. |
| 0:40.7 | I'm pretty sure there was so many other people that I didn't know at the time, you know, |
| 0:45.3 | because I was just 14 years old. |
| 0:47.4 | He would tell us. |
| 0:48.2 | He's like, I own the banks. |
| 0:49.7 | I own the presidents. |
| 0:50.8 | I know a lot about people. |
| 0:52.7 | And if I share what I know, it would be a disaster. |
| 0:58.0 | Today's podcast guest is someone that I admire and respect a ton. Marina Lacerda is someone |
| 1:02.6 | that has had to experience things that most people don't have to experience in their lifetime. |
| 1:06.4 | And instead of cowering in the dark in her story, she just decided to stand boldly and come out |
| 1:10.6 | publicly and be courageous and stand in the face of evil and share her story, she just decided to stand boldly and come out publicly |
| 1:11.0 | and be courageous and stand in the face of evil and share her story. Now, I want to caution anyone |
| 1:15.0 | watching or listening. Viewer discretion is advised. The story is graphic. It's intense. It's dark. |
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