Tim Eccles and Donnell Baird are two very different people.

Tim is a religious conservative from Georgia.

He's been active in Republican politics and evangelical organizing for decades.

His passion for the environment is deeply rooted in his faith.

I'm an evangelical Christian, and I believe that God gave Adam and Eve a responsibility to care for the garden,

subsequently the whole earth. Caring for it, you know, it means tending it and nurturing it and

making sure that you're not abusing it. De Nell is a former progressive organizer. His obsession with

the environment is rooted in his own experience of energy poverty.

He grew up in a one-bedroom apartment in Brooklyn without heat,

and his family actually had to heat their home using an oven.

Of course, that releases all kinds of carbon monoxide.

All that to say, like, very early on, I was exposed to the relationship between

energy and buildings and actually health. And as I got older and went to college, you could kind

of see that environmental justice and environmental racism as a structural issue. It wasn't just

my individual family, but millions and

unfortunately billions of people around the world who struggle with these kinds of issues.

Tim grew up with automobiles at the center of his life. His family owned a car auction when he was a

kid. So I've always loved cars. I've worked at the car auction starting at 11 years old,

selling peanuts to the car dealers.

And then as I got older, I started a car detail shop there. And obviously just continued on with

my interest in cars after college, worked for a Ford dealership. D'nell grew up with poverty

and activism at the center of his life.

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