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An Archaeologist And A Tattoo Artist Decipher Ancient Ink

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🗓️ 28 August 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Archaeologists are taking another look at tattoos on preserved corpses and verifying ancient techniques with modern tattoo artists.

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0:00.0

Hey, I'm Flor Lichtenen, and you're listening to Science Friday.

0:06.9

Today in the show, archaeologists are turning their attention to an art form that's been largely overlooked.

0:14.3

Tattoos.

0:15.4

To modify is human, and it has been since the beginning.

0:24.4

Last. is human, and it has been since the beginning. Last month, researchers used near-infrared photography to get a brand new, detailed look

0:31.5

at human art from thousands of years ago. A beautiful scene of wild animals kind of tussled in a fight. But these

0:40.3

weren't paintings on a cave wall or a rock somewhere. They were tattoos on the arm of an ancient

0:46.5

Siberian woman who lived 2300 years ago. Ancient tattoos may seem like an unconventional

0:53.8

academic focus, which is why I love the story so much.

0:57.8

So what can Ancient Inc. tell us about our ancestors? A lot, according to my next guests.

1:04.8

Here, to stick and poke our way into this topic are Aaron Dieter Wolf, archaeologist for the Tennessee Division of Archaeology

1:11.2

based in Nashville, and his research collaborator, Danny Riede, a practicing tattoo artist based

1:17.2

in Léz-Z-France. Welcome to you both to Science Friday. Thank you so much, Laura. It's

1:22.4

great to be here. Yeah, absolutely. It's a pleasure. Okay, Aaron, let's start with you. Let's start

1:26.8

with this new study on this ancient Siberian mummy. First of all, what did her tattoos look like? Can you describe them?

1:34.4

So this woman had a series of tattoos on both of her arms. Both of her forearms were tattooed with scenes of animals that, as you said, are tussling or engaged in fighting or battle.

1:47.2

And then both of her hands also then have series of tattoos on them on the thumbs and across her first knuckles of her fingers.

1:55.7

I mean, I'm looking at it. It's so beautiful. First of all, I feel like anyone listening really should check it out. We're going to put it on our Instagram at SciFry so you can see it. And it looks like three, I don't know, tigers, would you say that? Sort of going after elk? How would you describe it?

2:16.6

Elk, deer, horse deer. You know, there's this, this whole style of

2:21.4

art has been called a Scythian animal style. And one of the fun things about this has been that Danny,

2:26.6

who has been collaborating with me for years on projects related to ancient tattooing,

2:31.6

one of his practices is working in Scythian animal style art. He does a lot of

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