Hello and welcome to Forever 35 a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Kate Spencer and I am Dory Schifrier and we are not experts.

We're not we're two friends. We're not.

We're two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.

But today we're talking about something

that I'm doing.

I think to take care of myself. Oh, was going to say but one of us isn't going to be

talking about serums for much longer. You know what and that just sums up our

personalities so clear. That just sums up our personalities.

So clearly.

Yeah, let's not beat around the bush.

Friends, Kate here, I have decided to retire from Forever 35.

D. D. D. D.

Kate, why are you retiring?

Well, because I don't want to talk about serums anymore, Dory.

Don't get it. I'm joking. I actually do still want to talk about serums. I just got a new

retinol from my dermatologist, but we'll talk about that on another episode.

Dory I am retiring because quite honestly I am experiencing some pretty extreme burnout that took me a really long time to even identify

that has been impacting my mental health and my physical health for a while.

And this is, as you know, extremely bittersweet for me and I'm nervous even talking about it which

you can probably hear in my voice but I I really have been feeling unwell and think that giving myself some quiet,

some time to just kind of take a step back and care for myself and spend time

with my family and just kind of, I don't know, even give myself space to think about what I can do to just kind of care for myself quite honestly because oftentimes that is a thing I don't

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