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Conversations That Matter

An Alternative to the Antioch Declaration with Joseph Spurgeon

Conversations That Matter

Jon Harris

Society & Culture

4.31.1K Ratings

🗓️ 26 November 2024

⏱️ 100 minutes

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Summary

Joseph Spurgeon wrote an alternative statement that accomplishes some of the same things mentioned in the Antioch Declaration without the tedious language and confusing statements while adding some additional helpful information on the nature of nations.


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0:00.0

Welcome to the Conversations That Matter podcast. I'm your host, John Harris, and I was just talking to brother and pastor Joseph Spurgeon behind the scenes for a little bit.

0:11.0

I know some of you were wondering, when are you going to start? We were having a good talk. So we are starting now, though, and we're going to talk a little bit about this Antioch declaration and the respronts that brother

0:24.1

Joseph Spurgeon has made to this. He has an alternative, and we're going to go over that

0:28.1

alternative. And I think it's a better statement. No statement is perfect. No statement is

0:32.1

scripture. No statement is inspired by God in that way that humans have come up with. But I think that this is

0:39.2

something to build off of and it's, I think, framed very well. And I'll just say this before

0:45.4

introducing Joseph, but he came to me with this. I want to say it was hours after the Antioch

0:51.9

Declaration was up there. It wasn't long. And I was really

0:54.8

impressed that he had come up with something this good in such a short span of time. And so this will

1:01.9

help, I think, those out there who are wondering, John, why didn't you sign it? Maybe even Pastor

1:06.7

Spurgeon, why didn't you sign it? This will help you a little bit more, I think, understanding why we decided not to and what

1:14.2

we think would be a better statement if we were going to address some of the related

1:19.0

subjects.

1:19.6

So with that, Pastor Joseph Spurgeon, welcome once again, long time, no C.

1:25.0

You were on the podcast last week, and here you are again.

1:27.4

How you doing? how you doing yeah doing

1:28.7

well man i don't know if i ever had that many conversations that matter and so now we have yeah

1:35.0

yeah they do matter i think the video i made on the antioch declaration has like i don't even know now

1:40.9

you know with the audio and the video, over 15,000 views and wasn't

1:45.9

expecting that, but here we are. And I wanted to broaden that discussion because, you know,

1:53.1

I talked about my personal opinion on all of those things, how I think about it. And it was very

1:57.6

in the moment. It was very fresh. And I had a lot of people asking me questions. We've had time to digest. And I want to get a second perspective as well, which is

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