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Factually! with Adam Conover

An AI Expert Challenges an AI Skeptic, with Ethan Mollick

Factually! with Adam Conover

Headgum

Comedy

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 31 December 2025

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Summary

Even if the AI bubble bursts, the technology won’t just disappear. We’re going to live alongside some version of AI, so we have to ask: what does our future with AI look like? This week, Adam invites Ethan Mollick, AI expert and professor at Wharton School of Business, to challenge his skeptical view on AI and look at how it might impact our daily lives. Find Ethan's book at factuallypod.com/books

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0:00.0

This is a headgum podcast.

0:05.0

I don't know the truth.

0:08.3

I don't know the way.

0:10.9

I don't know what to think.

0:13.6

I don't know what to say.

0:16.6

Yeah, but that's all right.

0:19.4

That's okay.

0:22.0

I don't know anything.

0:26.4

Hey there, welcome to Factually.

0:28.0

I'm Adam Conover.

0:29.0

Thanks for joining me again.

0:30.4

You know, if you've listened to the show or any of my YouTube videos, you know that I've

0:35.1

taken a pretty skeptical stance towards AI to say the least.

0:39.4

The reason for that is that, first of all, I'm a skeptic at heart.

0:42.3

And when I hear a lot of people saying one thing, I want to ask is the opposite true.

0:47.1

And, you know, if you look at how we're currently basing our entire economy and the stock market and GDP around infinite AI growth, I think the position

0:57.3

of what if that's not a good idea is, let's just say, under explored.

1:02.6

You know, when 98% of people are betting on black, I say, well, we could put a little money

1:06.7

on red just for fun.

1:08.5

That's the kind of thing I do strategically as a communicator, and because,

1:12.7

you know, you as the audience seem to enjoy hearing those arguments. But that doesn't mean that

1:17.3

maximal skepticism about AI is going to be right all the time. It's not the case that the only

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