Welcome to this Spectator podcast in partnership with Phoenix Group, the UK's largest long-term savings and retirement business.

I'm Martin Van der Weir. I'm the business editor of the Spectator.

And it's my pleasure to host this discussion on the implications of an aging population,

of living longer. What does that mean for work and what does it mean for health?

I'm delighted to be joined by three distinguished guests.

They are Dame Carol Black, who is a leader of the British medical profession,

a former president of the Royal College of Physicians,

a former advisor to the British government on the relationship between work and health,

and currently chair of the Centre for Aging Better.

Our second guest is Guy Opperman, MP, who is Minister of State for Employment at the Department of Work and Pensions,

and previously was Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Pensions, and previously was Parliamentary Undersecretary of State

for pensions and financial inclusion.

And our third guest is Catherine Foote, Director of Phoenix Insights.

I'm going to just start with Catherine.

I know you've got some new research out on this subject.

Just tell us a tiny bit about Phoenix Insights and how you come at this subject matter.

Thanks, Martin.

So I'm part of Phoenix Group, which is the largest long-term savings and retirement business in the UK.

We've got 13 million customers and about 8,000 staff and have set up Phoenix

Insights, this new think tank, a centre for research analysis and also broad public engagement,

really in recognition of both the challenge and the opportunity that we as individuals and us collectively as a nation

are faced with in light of our now much longer lives that we can enjoy than previous generations.

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