Welcome to another edition of Trevor Loudman Ports on America Out Loud.

Today we've got a very special guest, Victor Jessup, of the New America Initiative.

Now, Victor is Australian from Melbourne, but he's lived in this country, I don't know, half his life or a third of his life or something off and on.

He's very deeply invested in America, but very deeply invested in his faith and his

and freedom, you know, he's been an active anti-communist for many years, a journalist working on the

international stage, very well informed, very well connected. And I wanted to talk to Victor

today a bit about the international scene in America and America's role, but his Christian vision

and the role of America is a providential nation because I think we're in a spiritual battle,

but not many people articulate it that way and put it into practical terms, as I have heard Victor put it into practical terms.

So, first of all, welcome, Victor.

Thanks for coming on.

Trevor, it's always great to be talking with you.

Thank you.

Well, we first met at CPAC some years ago, didn't we?

And I think you picked me out because of my accent.

It was a little bit similar to yours.

But we've become friends since then.

And I say you have contributed very, very strongly to both my political and spiritual development, Victor.

So I'll thank you for that right here and now.

Well, thank you.

That's meaningful, Trevor, to be honest.

Thank you.

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