AMY WINEHOUSE (with Sasha Frere-Jones)
Pop Pantheon
DJ Louie XIV
4.7 • 630 Ratings
🗓️ 23 November 2022
⏱️ 104 minutes
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Summary
Musician and Writer Sasha Frere-Jones joins DJ Louie to discuss the tragically short career and life of the great British soul singer, Amy Winehouse. Louie and Sasha begin by discussing how an early death, perhaps before a pop star has even reached their peak, affects their legacy before diving into Amy’s story, how she grew up on the music of jazz greats like Dinah Washington and Sarah Vaughn and ‘90s American hip hop superstars like Nas and Lauryn Hill and the ways that marriage formed the aesthetic of her debut album, 2003’s Frank. They then discuss how a painful breakup led Amy both down a dangerous path with drugs and alcohol but also inspired her breakthrough sophomore album, 2006’s modern classic Back to Black, a meticulously constructed throwback to ‘50s and ‘60s soul and girl group aesthetics made in collaboration with producers Mark Ronson and Salaam Remi. Louie and Sasha lay out the ways in which that album juxtaposed backwards-looking production with Amy’s utterly singular and thoroughly-modern perspective on love, heartbreak and substance abuse, how Black’s massive and expected success only exacerbated her problems, the toxicity of celebrity press coverage in the late 2000s, and how it all ultimately helped lead to Amy’s untimely passing from alcohol poisoning in 2011. Lastly, Louie and Sasha discuss the long shadow of Amy Winehouse’s legacy in pop culture, before ranking her in the official Pop Pantheon.
Read Sasha's piece following Amy's death in The New Yorker
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Pop Pantheon, the podcast where we completely overanalyze all of your favorite |
| 0:15.2 | pop stars and then rank them in the official Pop Pantheon. This is your host, DJ Louis |
| 0:20.2 | the 14th, reminding you to please rate, review, and subscribe to Pop Pantheon. This is your host, DJ Louis the 14th, reminding you to please rate, review, and subscribe |
| 0:23.5 | to Pot Pantheon wherever you get your podcast to follow us on social media at Pop Pantheon |
| 0:28.9 | Pod on Instagram and Twitter, myself at DJ L-O-U-I-E-X-I-V on both Instagram and Twitter, |
| 0:34.4 | and of course to check out our Spotify playlist for this and every episode in the show notes of this episode and in our bios on social media. Also, as ever, head over to |
| 0:43.5 | our Patreon, Pop Pantheon all access for bonus episodes of the show, access to our Discord channel, |
| 0:49.5 | and lots of other fun perks. We have a really cool four episodes up there so far for our Patreon listeners |
| 0:56.1 | and so much more fun content planned for the future. So the link to join Pop Pantheon all access, |
| 1:01.7 | our Patreon will be in the show notes of this episode. And also I will post it on social. So I hope to |
| 1:06.6 | see some of you over there. Oh, also you can go go directly to patreon.com slash pop pantheon to get the |
| 1:13.4 | Patreon access as well. Also, we have merch, Poppantheonpod.com. Dad hat over there. And actually, |
| 1:20.9 | we have some new surprises coming soon. So get over to our merch store. Get yourself a dad hat. Great gift |
| 1:26.5 | for Christmas, I would say, to the pop fan in your life, the niche legend dad hat. If I do say so myself. Also, I want to say that we are making a call for voice notes. We're doing a year-end episode where I'm going to go through all of the rankings that we've done in the past year and see where I'm at with them all, how I feel about them having had some time to reflect. There's anything I want to shift around, anything I want to change. I don't know. I just want to take a look at what we ranked this year and see how I'm feeling about my decisions. And we want your opinions. So if there is a decision that you felt was wrong, if there was a Pop Pantheon ranking that you feel was off or you felt |
| 2:02.0 | I didn't nail, we'd love to hear from you. And we're going to include some voice notes and reflect |
| 2:07.6 | on what you have to say in the episode, Live on Air. So send us a voice note to Pop Pantheon Pod at |
| 2:13.1 | gmail.com. And we might include you in our episode. So we want to hear from you guys about disputes. |
| 2:20.3 | Finally, my queer pop party, gorgeous, gorgeous is happening on December 3rd in downtown |
| 2:25.6 | LA at Resident to come hear me DJ pop music all night long. I would love to see you guys there. |
| 2:30.6 | Link for that also in the show notes of this episode. And again, on social media. This episode of |
| 2:36.3 | the show is a bit of a sticky one. It's about Amy Winehouse, who is a beloved and tragically |
| 2:45.2 | short-lived pop career, someone that was revered in their time and perhaps even more revered since her passing. |
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