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The Times Tech Podcast

Ample's John de Souza: "Electric car charging is broken"

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2022

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on John de Souza, to talk about replacing car batteries, not charging them (6:20), starting with fleets (11:30), growing up in Africa and Dubai (15:00), producing a movie (19:00), entering uni at 16 (22:10), selling his first startup to Bill Gates (24:05), becoming an investor (27:40), then doing a few more startups (32:25), alighting on EV charging (33:40), getting the car companies to buy in to swappable batteries (39:20), raising $260 million (42:40), why superchargers aren’t enough (44:35), the future of the energy transition (48:20), and his deal with Uber (50:40).

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Yo, technology.

0:35.3

What is it all about?

0:36.8

Startup's the worst thing to do for money.

0:39.1

The probability for succeeding is so low.

0:43.2

It's funny.

0:44.0

You get all these people.

0:45.2

The number one reason they'll do it is, oh, it's a great way.

0:47.9

Look, there's so many easier ways to make money than doing a startup.

0:51.9

So you better really enjoy it because that might be all you're going to get around

0:55.5

the startup.

1:09.9

Hello and welcome to Danny in the Valley.

1:13.0

How's everyone doing?

1:14.8

I'm your host, Danny Fortson, the West Coast correspondent for the Sunday Times.

1:18.8

And this week, people, we're talking about charging, car charging, specifically why the current model, you superchargers wall chargers etc not going to

1:31.1

work so a little story which is not at all unique but um i think kind of helps illustrate the point

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