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slash UK slash AI for people. Welcome into the latest edition of ESPNFC. I'm Dan Thomas shown by Craig Burley and Shagher.

Here's stop as we reflect on what we saw in the Premier League this weekend as we kick things off in the Manchester Derby.

It is the worst start for Manchester United in the top flight in 33 years.

However, Mark Ogden just told me that year they went on to win the league. So there we are.

Get your money on United to beat Liverpool at the top of the table come the end of the season.

They were of course once again so poor against Manchester City. This is what Amarine had to say.

I won't change my philosophy. If they, the United hierarchy, when it changed, you change the man.

I'm not going to change my philosophy. I will play my way until I want to change.

Mark Ogden joins us now.

Ogden's funny because I was thinking, what can I ask you that? I haven't asked you before about United.

And I feel we've got nothing left. We scrape the bottom of the barrel.

Every week we're here talking about United, talking about their frailties, talking about where

they've gone wrong and yet again we've sat here having that same conversation.

It's exactly what I feel like when I've got to ask Ruben Ammering the question at a press

compus. You know, Ruben, are you going to change the way you play? It's not working and the answers the same every time. But I think that's what it boils down to. You can talk about the players, not being good enough, but maybe some of them are better than they're showing right now. What I got off from that game was that the players have no faith in the system. They're very confused. And yes, I mean, I know that United are tonight briefing that Amoryne is safe.

For now, there's no faith in the system, they're very confused. And yes, I mean, I know that United are tonight briefing that Amoryam is safe for now. There's no plans at the moment of changing, but that will only last for so long because it clearly isn't working. Is it eight wins in 31 league games? I mean, it's not relegation form, but it's not far off. So Man United have missed out on European football this season. They can't keep out of the Champions League Because they'll just keep falling further and further behind Because every time a club qualifies for the Champions League They can guarantee between £18 and £100 million So those clubs that are in it are pulling further away from United So Ammarim is basically, he's on the clock now He needs to some results. They've got Chelsea at home at the weekend.

They got Brentford away the following week. But as he kept telling us last season, if United is not in Europe this season, he's got a week to work between games on the training pitch. Is that making them better or making them worse? We'll soon find out. The least flex... I've said this before. And it's a bit like this conversation where you're thinking what

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