How did the online world get so extreme and so ugly?

Andrew Morance will be here to discuss his new book,

Anti-Social, Online Extremists, Techno-Youtopians,

and the hijacking of the American conversation.

Do older women keep getting better or do we just get older?

Gail Collins will be here to talk about her new book,

No Stopping Us Now, The Adventures of Older Women in American History.

Alexander Altair will give us an update from the publishing world.

Plus, our critics will talk about the latest in literary criticism.

This is the Booker View Podcast from the New York Times.

I'm Pamela Paul.

Andrew Morance joins us now from Chicago.

He is a staff writer at the New Yorker

and the author of a new book called,

Anti-Social, Online Extremists, Techno-Youtopians,

and the hijacking of the American conversation.

Andrew, thanks for being here.

Thanks for having me.

These sound like pretty not nice people that you research for this book.

I don't want to bum people out too much with the subject matter

and I don't think of it as purely just trying to dunk people's heads

in the scary toilet bowl of the internet.

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