Amna Khalid: Campus Craziness
Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps
Josh Szeps
4.5 • 905 Ratings
🗓️ 12 September 2023
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
Has Louis CK reeeeeeally been “cancelled” if he still has a face? I mean, he wasn’t beheaded, ergo, “cancel culture” doesn’t exist. Amna Khalid is an equal-opportunity defender of free speech—a professor who slams wokesters… at the same time as legally opposing Florida’s war on woke universities. Anna’s blog and podcast, “Banished”, are about the history of censorship. This episode is part of Permission to Think, a collaboration with the University of Technology, Sydney, where Josh is a visiting fellow. A fabulous chat about the fate of education and the limits of free speech.
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| 0:00.0 | Goody, humans. Welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas. What's going on with universities? |
| 0:08.5 | Are they just hotbeds of crazy, woke, vulnerable students wailing about their feelings and how vulnerable they are? |
| 0:16.1 | And being pandered to by bureaucrats and administrators? Is it necessary for the swinging arm of right-wing |
| 0:23.8 | justice in the form of Governor Ron DeSantis in Florida to slap around those institutions |
| 0:30.0 | and whack them back into shape. Get all the wokeies off campus. This is an important issue, |
| 0:39.6 | how we're educating young people, |
| 0:42.7 | and the ways in which the ideas that they're educated in then bleed into the rest of society. |
| 0:46.5 | Amna Khalid is fascinating. |
| 0:48.2 | She was brought to my attention by Alan Davison, |
| 0:51.0 | who is the wonderful dean of the Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences at the |
| 0:54.9 | University of Technology, Sydney, which is responsible for this collaboration. Every once in a while, |
| 1:02.2 | eight to 12 episodes over the course of 12 to 18 months, we do a collaboration with UTS. I'm a visiting |
| 1:08.3 | fellow there, and this is called permission to think these |
| 1:12.0 | subsets which will really try to get our hands dirty understanding some of the things that motivate |
| 1:17.1 | the best in higher education and the best in free speech on campus and try to run a countervailing |
| 1:23.8 | force against what can sometimes be orthodoxies and dogmas on campus. |
| 1:29.0 | Amner is fascinating because she is a professor herself. |
| 1:32.9 | She is a historian herself. |
| 1:35.2 | She lives and works in Minnesota, but she was born in Pakistan. |
| 1:39.1 | So she has, in addition to her expertise in South Asian history and in the history of medicine and so on, |
| 1:44.0 | she has a deep understanding of and interest in the global history of free expression in all of its forms. |
| 1:51.5 | She's lived under military dictatorships. |
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