Hi and welcome to the working songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop.

I'm your host, Joe Pug. Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go

deep on their inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran,

looking for the setting on your drum machine

that will make you sound like fine young cannibals

or else a scrappy upstart,

looking for the setting that will make you sound like MGMT.

This is your show,

because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most an ironclad excuse to put off

actually writing.

Hey everybody, it's the second Friday of May 2021, and I thank you for joining us.

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