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The IVF Decision We Should Have Seen Coming

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🗓️ 2 March 2024

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

It was a wild week at the High Court (another seven days crammed with a year’s worth of news). SCOTUS heard cases about bump stocks, and how Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito would do as Facebook content moderators. The Supreme Court also finally found the time to put a thumb on the scale for serially indicted alleged insurrector-in-chief former President Donald J Trump. We’ll talk about all those things with Slate’s very own Mark Joseph Stern.

But what we’re really focused on this week is the Alabama Supreme Court’s recent decision finding that frozen embryos are children, and the unshakeable sense that the coverage of this so far has had a slightly myopic quality, as though this case is purely about IVF, and carving out IVF, when in fact the entire movement for fetal personhood sweeps in many more people and rights than just those seeking assisted reproductive technology. We’re joined by a preeminent expert on matters of law, medicine, reproductive health, and biotechnologies, Dr. Michele Goodwin. Dr. Goodwin is the author of  Policing The Womb: Invisible Women and The Criminalization of Motherhood. She explains (again) why we should have seen this decision coming from miles (and centuries) away. 

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0:00.0

Hi and welcome back to Amicus this is Slate's podcast about the courts and the

0:07.8

Supreme Court and the rule of law I'm Dahlia Lothwick and I do my level best to cover some of those things for Slate as they continue

0:15.8

to fly right at us at high velocities and no sign of slowing down anytime soon.

0:22.4

This past week, the High Court heard really important

0:25.2

machine gun and content moderation cases it also paused Jacksmith's DC

0:30.2

insurrection prosecution of Donald Trump a delay that is going to stop the

0:34.8

trial at least through the summer we think a judge in Illinois has removed

0:39.5

Donald Trump from that state's ballot pending a decision in the Colorado 14th Amendment

0:44.5

case that the Supreme Court has not yet decided.

0:47.2

Mitch McConnell, one of the prime architects of the legal hellscape that we now

0:52.2

reside in, announced he will be stepping down as

0:55.8

the GOP Senate leader and Republicans in that same Senate who were against IVF until they were for IVF this week voted against IVF

1:08.0

yet again in a move that could surprise only Charlie Brown were he racing toward the football.

1:15.8

We are going to spend some time this week with our good friend, Polymath, law professor, and

1:21.0

weary Cassandra, Dr. Michelle Goodwin, who's going to try to help us understand this high-speed move

1:27.0

from a conversation about abortion bans to the new conversation about IVF bans,

1:32.0

why it really hasn't happened at high speeds at all,

1:36.1

what we've missed along the way, and what comes next.

1:40.7

But we're going to open this week's show with my co-pilot and dear friend Mark Joseph Stern

1:47.2

to talk about the Supreme Court's decision Wednesday night that will have the pretty inevitable effect of pushing the January 6th criminal

1:56.1

insurrection trial that would have happened in Judge Tanya

1:59.5

Chuckkins Court in Washington DC well into the fall. Later on in the show, Mark's going to be back to fill

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