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The (draft) Opinion of the Court on Abortion

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🗓️ 26 February 2018

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Summary

In a special episode for Slate Plus members, Dahlia Lithwick is joined by Slate’s Mark Joseph Stern for in-depth analysis of the stunning leaked draft opinion from Justice Samuel Alito in Dobbs v Jackson Women's Health Organization, the abortion case that is poised to overturn 50 years of jurisprudence and Roe v Wade.

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0:00.0

Hello amicus listeners this is Dahlia and it is emergency

0:09.9

podcast time Mark Joseph Stern and I are working our way through Justice Samuel Alito's leaked

0:15.8

draft opinion in Dobbs that would overturn Roe v. Wade in a Slate Plus exclusive episode. Here's a little taste of that.

0:25.0

One more time. Hello amicus listeners this is Dahlia and it is emergency

0:30.8

podcast time. Mark Joseph Stern and I are working our way

0:34.0

through Justice Sam Alito's leaked draft opinion overturning Roe v. Wade in a

0:39.3

slate plus exclusive episode. Here's a little taste of that. I guess I'm curious if you can see

0:46.8

some principle here that allows Justice Alito to say, oh no, no, oh, no, oh, Bergafell is safe and don't worry about your birth control.

0:55.7

Abortion is just different.

0:57.8

You flick at in your piece that abortion has to do, I think you say this is Justice Kavanaugh, this is just different because it's taking a life.

1:05.0

Yes, and that's what Alito lays out in his opinion.

1:09.0

He says that abortion is sharply distinguished from other rights that were recognized in previous cases on which Roe relied because it destroys a potential life or an unborn human being.

1:23.4

And so abortion is just sui generis because it involves basically what we view to be

1:28.0

killing and so we are not going to allow it to stand as precedent but we'll simply pluck it out of this entire line of

1:36.0

precedent and let the rest stand.

1:39.0

And there are a few problems with that as we've already discussed, like there are other precedents that have very similar

1:44.8

reasoning that are not deeply rooted that seem to be imperiled but he actually does this kind of

1:49.9

rhetorical trick to make it seem like he's saying that the gay rights cases are safe

1:54.7

but then not actually say that. So he has this passage where he's talking about

1:59.3

other decisions that created or established un overturning. And that are different from abortion,

2:06.0

but that he says are safe,

2:08.0

and that the abortion decisions relied on,

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